jeffrey, it my be very clever on hassans part. he can defeat the death penalty by doing a lousy job, make it look like he wants to die, and his lawyers say we have to stop the trial, it's unethical. >> and if you book up, this could have been his plan from the beginning. obviously no one really knows what is going on in his mind, his decision to defend himself. but one thing that can change this whole thing, the judge did say to the lawyers, you bring me something from the texas state bar, whether they're licensed, that says this does present an ethical dilemma, you can't just stand by and watch this guy essentially kill himself in front of the jury. that may change the judge's mind. the judge this entire time is just trying to make sure that this stands up to appellate scrutiny. >> you know, every defendant would do what hasan is doing in order to avoid the death penalty. you can't allow that. >> right. >> i got cult -- cut it off here. we're out of time because of the news conference. david, i owe you one on that. >> no problem.